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Saturday, August 06, 2005

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Here's some Instant Messenger conversations I've had since yesterday. You may find them interesting. Note that the emoticons sometimes don't show. Also, a link to something interesting.
It seems history professors are making shallow comparisons between the second Gulf War and the American Revolution.

genometype (4:37:55 PM): Pardon?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:38:05 PM): I'm 33 on Thursdays
genometype (4:38:12 PM): Oh.
genometype (4:38:32 PM): So, Why'd you want to contact me?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:39:08 PM): Hmmmmmm
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:39:18 PM): That's a good question
genometype (4:39:20 PM): :-w
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:40:33 PM): Probably because I was bored
genometype (4:40:56 PM): I see. Why is it difficult to find something to do?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:42:13 PM): Why do you ask?
genometype (4:42:33 PM): I can't relate to boredom.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:43:08 PM): So every single minute of every single day you have a new and interesting activity to partake in?
genometype (4:43:29 PM): Yes. I'm currently reading a news letter.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:43:45 PM): Do you regularly read news letters?
genometype (4:44:15 PM): I regularly do many different things. No, news letters aren't what I typically read.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:45:17 PM): Well, you see, I prefer to retain a larger variety of words in which I can describe myself instead of disregarding the variety of words which some might not say applies
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:45:49 PM): So, while I can regularly do something, if that something isn't on par with my usual activities, then that is what I would consider "bored" just so that I can keep the word in my vernacular
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:46:42 PM): Bored perhaps has a different relative meaning to other people, but since most people are bored by their own definition at some point in their lives, I usually see no reason to universalize the word
genometype (4:47:11 PM): I see. So novel experiences equal boredom.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:47:29 PM): If the usual is extraodinary then average is below par
genometype (4:48:11 PM): Wouldn't consider the best news letters below a set average.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:48:30 PM): That doesn't mean you have to be bored right now
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:48:44 PM): If you were "bored" all the time then that would be equally bad
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:49:07 PM): Because then "interested and active" would both lose their meaning
genometype (4:49:31 PM): True.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:51:51 PM): I'm actually a little dissapointed now, too
genometype (4:52:11 PM): In me? Please forgive me.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:52:17 PM): I was really hoping the admins would delete my "Bow Knaves" essay
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:52:35 PM): And here it is still completely untouched
genometype (4:53:14 PM): Oh, so I'm not the source of disappointment.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:53:45 PM): Nope. For someone with "dissappointing" in their name you're not really that dissapointing
genometype (4:54:00 PM): I see.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:54:10 PM): Flee?
genometype (4:54:17 PM): I see.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:54:22 PM): Oh
genometype (4:54:29 PM): I see.
genometype (4:54:45 PM): This better?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:54:49 PM): Hahaha, yeah
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:55:06 PM): This is the equivalent of 9 AM for me, since I just woke up, sorry
genometype (4:55:27 PM): You live in Asia?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:55:40 PM): No, I just write better at night
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:55:47 PM): So I usually sleep through the days
genometype (4:56:15 PM): Well, that's common, but not for a 33-year-old.:))
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:56:39 PM): Hahaha, it's also not common for a 33 year old to be going to college... unless you're a doctor, I suppose
genometype (4:57:41 PM): I guess not. So a 33-year-old college student wrote "Bow Knaves.":))
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:57:57 PM): Does my profile say I'm 33 or something?
genometype (4:58:07 PM): Yes, it does.
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:58:38 PM): Nice. is this the one with the quote from "Blonde" too?
genometype (4:59:12 PM): Um, can't remember. Was that on Yahoo?
billy_bo_bob_yep (4:59:34 PM): I don't know, I can't remember how to actually see my own profile
genometype (5:01:15 PM): Oh, it says 23 now. I just clicked on your avatar. That should do it.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:01:27 PM): Nice
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:01:42 PM): Yeah, I usually just make up everything on my profile
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:02:27 PM): I haven't been arab yet. Maybe i'll try that next
genometype (5:03:09 PM): A very distraught Arab.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:03:13 PM): I love how when I have a real essay, that has "rape" in the title, fictionpress deletes my essay
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:03:26 PM): Yet when I have two chapters that have a total of four words, that is somehow "okay"
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:03:59 PM): (three words, since chapter 3 doesn't really have a word, just a string of letters)
genometype (5:04:26 PM): MMM. I've never tested them that way, seeing how I don't want my account deleted.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:04:41 PM): I'm not worried about one of my accounts being deleted
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:04:55 PM): They obviously don't care enough to actually freeze the other accounts from your IP
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:05:05 PM): If your account got deleted, you probably could make another one
genometype (5:05:21 PM): Indeed.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:05:32 PM): And, Hell, I'm not banned yet
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:05:44 PM): You'd have to do some pretty retarded things to get yourself banned from that site
genometype (5:06:27 PM): You have a trove of accounts, I’d guess. One would think they could better regulate it, seeing how only some 200,000 accounts exist on the site.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:07:02 PM): Unless of course there's only something like 2 people working at the site
genometype (5:07:31 PM): I've always assumed all the columnists chipped in.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:07:39 PM): The columnists?
genometype (5:08:14 PM): You've never seen the columns on the right side of the home page?
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:08:19 PM): No, I have
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:08:24 PM): Haven't you seen autumndark?
genometype (5:08:43 PM): One of the columnists. What about him?
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:08:52 PM): The column feature is broken so he's been posting in the essay section
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:09:01 PM): If he has any moderating ability it is preciously small
genometype (5:09:44 PM): True, but some of them seem to have power as founding members.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:10:27 PM): I wouldn't really know. It's not like there's a list of moderators or any conceivable way to talk to the admins short of the report feature
genometype (5:11:33 PM): Oh yeah? I've seen a list of moderators for the different genres.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:11:51 PM): Really? You have the link?
genometype (5:11:55 PM): And a list for fandoms on the sister site.
genometype (5:12:01 PM): Give me a sec.
genometype (5:13:11 PM): Well shoot!
genometype (5:13:56 PM): I'm being timed out right now, but I left the complete list on a review for one of Musashi Media's essays.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:17:31 PM): Gilraen is a mod? Jesus, no wonder this site is so fucked up
genometype (5:18:12 PM): If you think you can do better, I dare you to try it.>:P
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:18:47 PM): Me? Gods no. But there are better mods out there
genometype (5:19:01 PM): Dare them.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:19:07 PM): Although when I actually do have power I generally don't abuse it nearly a much
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:19:21 PM): The people I speak of are already moderating less retarded sites
genometype (5:19:40 PM): There are less retarted sites?
genometype (5:19:49 PM): :^O
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:20:25 PM): People already treat the review board as a forum
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:20:35 PM): Perhaps having an actual forum would help the site
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:20:48 PM): groups.yahoo also has some pretty good sites
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:21:02 PM): and google groups
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:21:10 PM): And pretty much everything other than fictionpress
genometype (5:21:14 PM): Their writer groups don't impress me much.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:21:28 PM): Wait wait wait wait.. fictionpress writers impress you?
genometype (5:22:04 PM): No, they don't, but at least they (usually) refrain from using netspeak.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:23:19 PM): Hmm. Yeah, that doesn't really mean much to me when I've used and visited other communities that are far better
genometype (5:24:12 PM): Sturgeon’s law plagues nearly everything.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:25:04 PM): Hence why good groups are inherently more selective
genometype (5:25:30 PM): And so small, nearly nothing ever happens.:D
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:26:07 PM): Untrue, if you do nothing they boot you from the group
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:26:30 PM): That's what people do when they're actually selective
genometype (5:27:00 PM): =P~ Oh really? Where are these groups? I've seen Google and Yahoo, but there are so many!
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:28:07 PM): I can't find the link to the one I was temporarily in
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:28:17 PM): As a rule of thumb, I now try to avoid posting good writing online
genometype (5:28:43 PM): I guess everyone must do that.:(
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:28:43 PM): http://groups.yahoo.com/group/critical_writing/
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:28:56 PM): I wouldn't honestly reccomend that group, but it is an example
genometype (5:29:31 PM): Alright. Um, this being Central Time, I have a dinner to catch right now.
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:29:42 PM): So?
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:29:48 PM): :P
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:29:50 PM): Late
billy_bo_bob_yep (5:29:56 PM): *Later
genometype (5:30:12 PM): See you again.

genometype (6:06:07 PM): This Dr. H.H. Gaffney is a smart fellow.
creature_dm (6:06:17 PM): Who what?
genometype (6:06:43 PM): I've been reading that news letter.
creature_dm (6:06:52 PM): Ah
creature_dm (6:07:10 PM): Would you like to hear what's going on in my story right now?
genometype (6:07:30 PM): You have a story? OK, sure.
creature_dm (6:08:01 PM): A half-dragon in the form of a mortician and a reincarnated serial killer are investigating the corpse of Sherlock Holmes in an effort to prevent terrorists from killing King Arthur.
genometype (6:08:37 PM): You didn't use one of those silly story plot generators, did you?
creature_dm (6:09:00 PM): Nope, I thought up this mess of convoluted gibberish all on my own
genometype (6:09:16 PM): Then you're obsolete.
creature_dm (6:09:35 PM): The machine is taking over?
genometype (6:10:06 PM): Just visit Seventh Sanctum or the Generator Blog, and try telling me they aren't.
creature_dm (6:11:49 PM): This is a murder-mystery with a focus on stupidity. The story is about a rebellious archaeologist. It takes place in a magical universe. The future of peacemaking is a major part of this story.
creature_dm (6:12:11 PM): I'm sorry, but that's not nearly as elegantly nonsensical as my work
genometype (6:13:02 PM): Which account will post it, and I think the generators perfectly mimic what you do.
creature_dm (6:13:24 PM): Nah, I will never post this story to fictionpress
genometype (6:13:52 PM): That's your choice.
genometype (6:15:16 PM): Globalization and weapons proliferation seems to have an inverse relationship.
creature_dm (6:16:23 PM): ...what?
genometype (6:16:42 PM): Gaffney's theme.
genometype (6:17:08 PM): http://www.newrulesets.com/journals/barnett_1aug2005.pdf
creature_dm (6:19:44 PM): "though we fear some may never be able to join and may forever dwell in nasty, brutish, poor conditions."
creature_dm (6:20:00 PM): Boy, I'm glad to see there aren't any biases or obtuse statements with no support here
creature_dm (6:20:03 PM): That would be tragic
creature_dm (6:20:44 PM): "Is proliferation exponential? Naw."
creature_dm (6:20:54 PM): Rhetorical questions? Colloquialisms? You won't find any here!
genometype (6:21:34 PM): The letter was meant for a closed community.
creature_dm (6:22:04 PM): What's your point?
creature_dm (6:22:30 PM): Rhetoric and logical fallacies are rhetoric and logical fallacies regardless of the community they're designed for
genometype (6:23:07 PM): The normal rules of essay-writing don't apply in closed letters.
genometype (6:23:17 PM): I think.
creature_dm (6:23:44 PM): Sowhen you're preaching to the choir you don't have to make sense?
genometype (6:24:42 PM): In theory, every reader understands all the assumptions in the paper.
creature_dm (6:25:12 PM): If every reader understands the assumptions, then why doesn't he just state the conclusions?
genometype (6:25:46 PM): I don't know how to make a shrugging emoticon.
creature_dm (6:25:59 PM): *shrug*
genometype (6:26:00 PM): I would have, if I could.
genometype (6:26:09 PM): *Shrig*
genometype (6:26:23 PM): *Shrug* Opps, typo.
creature_dm (6:31:59 PM): Odd that he belittles terrorism as broken up just weeks after the London bombings
genometype (6:33:04 PM): Well, if no state sponsor exists anymore... What's your field, anyway?
creature_dm (6:33:33 PM): My field?
genometype (6:33:51 PM): You attended college, correct?
creature_dm (6:34:19 PM): I'm attending college
genometype (6:34:56 PM): I know.
creature_dm (6:35:15 PM): I intend to go into publishing
genometype (6:35:28 PM): As an editor?
creature_dm (6:35:53 PM): As a person who has his writings published
creature_dm (6:35:58 PM): Opposedly, as an editor
genometype (6:36:25 PM): Sidelining as an editor. Now it makes sense.
creature_dm (6:37:14 PM): I would say that if that doesn't work out i'd become a teacher or something, but if I really got absolutely none of my writing published i'd probably have to kill myself just on principle
genometype (6:37:40 PM): Every young person says that.
creature_dm (6:38:24 PM): Yeah, we all know i'm far too lazy to kill myself
genometype (6:38:47 PM): Every young person says that as well.
creature_dm (6:39:36 PM): You know, I'm willing to bet I know several hundred people that have never said either of those things
genometype (6:40:04 PM): They all think it, and I can manipulate them into saying it.
creature_dm (6:40:41 PM): Every young person says they can manipulate anyone into saying anything
genometype (6:41:42 PM): Perhaps. They also tend to believe they can change the world with a 300 word essay.
genometype (6:42:00 PM): That's still puzzling.
creature_dm (6:42:45 PM): They do
creature_dm (6:42:54 PM): They change the world by 300 words
genometype (6:43:17 PM): Leaked memos don't count.
creature_dm (6:43:27 PM): I bet if I had a 300 word, truly insightful essay, I could change the world
genometype (6:44:32 PM): I dare you to try.
creature_dm (6:45:23 PM): There is no evidence yet that god exists. Therefore, it is illogical to believe in him. Without god, there can be no meaning to life. Without meaning to life, all aesthetic and moral values are without basis. Since if god does not exist there can be no moral or aesthetic values, then there is no reason not to believe in god.
creature_dm (6:45:38 PM): If that were written in every textbook I bet it'd change the world
genometype (6:46:25 PM): As I always say: "How can you prove a negative?"
creature_dm (6:47:15 PM): I was merely stating the logical conclusions of several facts, at no point do I try to prove a negative
genometype (6:47:28 PM): I can read.
creature_dm (6:48:10 PM): Really? Can you also explain what your criticism is? Because that's really what I was going for.
genometype (6:49:58 PM): Yeah yeah, it seems to say the status quo is fine, that belief or disbelief... uh, my spelling has gone to hell... don't matter...
genometype (6:50:16 PM): Can I start over?
creature_dm (6:51:09 PM): What it really says is that there's no way in which the current status quo can be proved or disproved, so that you probably shouldn't waste your time debating it
genometype (6:51:56 PM): Yeah, I can see that, just couldn't articulate it correctly with rushed typing.
creature_dm (6:52:09 PM): You really like smilies, don't you?
genometype (6:52:31 PM): I just try to utilize them.
creature_dm (6:52:41 PM): "Nothing else makes sense, therefore the only logical course of action is to be completely illogical. Status quo and whatnot."
genometype (6:53:22 PM): What did... uh, C.S. Lewis or whatever-his-name-was say about God?
genometype (6:54:04 PM): Basically, things that men seek out must exist?
genometype (6:54:23 PM): We hunger for food, therefore it must exist.
genometype (6:54:42 PM): We hunger for love, therefore a companion must exist.
creature_dm (6:55:04 PM): Except you'd have a really, really hard time proving that
genometype (6:55:26 PM): What, food?
genometype (6:55:32 PM):
creature_dm (6:55:55 PM): That would certainly explain why people die of starvation
creature_dm (6:56:07 PM): and why people die alone, unwed
genometype (6:56:22 PM): Some people just suck.
creature_dm (6:57:06 PM): So if your plane crashed in the Sahara, that you couldn't find food and you died of starvation would imply that you "just suck"?
creature_dm (6:57:31 PM): Further, the whole point is moot since I, for one, do not seek out god or any form of divinity
genometype (6:58:51 PM): So you've opted out. Some people starve themselves. And yes, people who starve in the Sahara suck more than the Bedouin.
creature_dm (6:59:35 PM): But "opting out" is implying I have a desire in the first place
creature_dm (6:59:59 PM): The argument you presented was that if it is desired it must exist
creature_dm (7:00:11 PM): I have stated that I do not have such a desire.
genometype (7:00:23 PM): So God doesn't exist in your worldview.
creature_dm (7:01:06 PM): Now you're subjectifying the argument. While we could go into a great deal of subjectivism and postmodernism and all that rubbish I didn't think that's where you were giong
creature_dm (7:01:33 PM): It is implied that "it is within my worldview" that I am arguing about
creature_dm (7:01:37 PM): That's obvious
creature_dm (7:01:48 PM): Otherwise I wouldn't use the word "I" when referring to myself
genometype (7:02:26 PM): Love may not exist in mine. Since you aren't in pursuit for the truth, a postmodern answer suffices for you.
creature_dm (7:03:00 PM): Love, for one, would need to be defined before we start debating its existance
creature_dm (7:03:25 PM): I have no idea what you mean by "you aren't in pursuit for the truth" nor how "a postmodern answer suffices" even if that were true
genometype (7:03:45 PM): "Love is friendship on fire." That good?
creature_dm (7:04:02 PM): Perhaps. What, then is friendship?
genometype (7:05:48 PM): God doesn't matter to you, correct? So, you aren't looking for him, therefore, Lewis's argument holds no meaning for you.
genometype (7:06:04 PM): Therefore, it is invalid.
creature_dm (7:06:47 PM): This is a most creative viewpoint you've expressed
genometype (7:07:22 PM): Is it? I thought it has existed for some time.
creature_dm (7:07:38 PM): Most creative thoughts have.
creature_dm (7:08:08 PM): You're saying that unless I assume the existance of god, then I am not looking for truth.
genometype (7:09:08 PM): I see. I suppose if someone is already looking for God, one has already assumed his existance.
creature_dm (7:09:54 PM): If one is looking for god, one by definition must be aware that the entity referred to god may or may not exist
creature_dm (7:10:17 PM): I can be "looking for my keys under the couch"; to do so I must know that some form of keys have at some point existed
creature_dm (7:10:38 PM): Humans have the capacity to take ideas and place them in new situations and environment
creature_dm (7:10:40 PM): s
genometype (7:11:23 PM): It doesn't sound very economical to search for things one assumes doesn't exist. That's a poor budgeting of one's time.
genometype (7:11:43 PM): Therefore, the WMDs must exist.
genometype (7:13:32 PM): Keys and God both exist.
genometype (7:13:55 PM): "God" being a first mover of the universe, at least.
creature_dm (7:14:05 PM): For simplicity's sake, let me refresh our minds on the development of this discussion
creature_dm (7:14:13 PM): My argument: There is no evidence that god exists.
creature_dm (7:14:29 PM): You: There is evidence, for anything which people desire must exist.
genometype (7:14:37 PM): Go on.
creature_dm (7:14:50 PM): My argument: Things which people desire don't necessarily exist, and further I do not desire god.
creature_dm (7:15:42 PM): Your new argument seems to be: People desiring something that doesn't exist doesn't make sense and would not be economical.
creature_dm (7:16:31 PM): However, people do many things which either don't make sense, or don't appear to make sense.
genometype (7:16:32 PM): I'm assuming people are rational, and would only search if they expected some sort of reward out of it.
creature_dm (7:16:52 PM): Yes, people expect a reward, but that people's expectations are not often met
creature_dm (7:17:28 PM): I wish that I had a million dollars in my closet, however, there is none there and wishing for it to be true breaks my expectations
genometype (7:17:50 PM): You don't really expect it to be there.
creature_dm (7:18:17 PM): Do you ever expect to find god?
genometype (7:18:41 PM): I'll have to improve my math skills first.
genometype (7:18:51 PM):
creature_dm (7:19:03 PM): In a class I expected to get a C, but I actually got a B
creature_dm (7:19:20 PM): For me to expect this, the idea of a C must exist
creature_dm (7:19:29 PM): However, that does not mean that is what I will receive
genometype (7:19:34 PM): And yet, the potential for a C existed.
creature_dm (7:19:37 PM): Yes
creature_dm (7:19:42 PM): The potential for a C existed
creature_dm (7:19:46 PM): I cannot prove that C does not exist
creature_dm (7:20:05 PM): However, just because I expect a C doesn't mean that is what I will receive (that is, what exists)
genometype (7:21:42 PM): We’ve gotten to a point where atheistic arguments don’t make sense, because the potent ional for God’s existence exists.
genometype (7:22:38 PM): The potential for a C exists.
genometype (7:23:22 PM): The multiverse is a large place, and within it, the potential for God's existance exists.
creature_dm (7:24:11 PM): busy brb
genometype (7:24:24 PM): "How do you prove a negative?" OK.
genometype (7:26:16 PM): What could Le Creature be busy doing? Of course, he's searching for the $1million in his closet!
creature_dm (7:28:44 PM): I'm totally gonna find it one of these days
genometype (7:29:14 PM): Ha! So you aren't an agnostic!
genometype (7:30:47 PM): Reminds me of the White House photo session.
creature_dm (7:32:30 PM): Score
creature_dm (7:32:39 PM): Got into all the important classes
genometype (7:32:58 PM): Just now?
creature_dm (7:33:08 PM): Yeah, my Phase II was at 5:20
creature_dm (7:33:27 PM): Now, back to the discussion
creature_dm (7:33:34 PM): You seem to be misinterpreting my argument
creature_dm (7:33:41 PM): I was never saying that the potential for C does not exist
creature_dm (7:33:59 PM): Rather, there is merely no evidence yet that proves that C exists
genometype (7:34:09 PM): Cs exist for other people.
creature_dm (7:34:17 PM): Precisely
genometype (7:34:26 PM): God exists for other people; they say so.
creature_dm (7:34:34 PM): If you choose to believe in C, there is no way in which I can prove you are incorrect
creature_dm (7:34:52 PM): Just as if you choose to believe there are aliens, there is no way I can prove you are incorrect
genometype (7:35:42 PM): When a tree falls in the woods, is a sound made? I can't remember how that goes.
creature_dm (7:35:59 PM): Yes.
creature_dm (7:36:18 PM): The sound reverberations can leave indentations on nearby objects.
genometype (7:36:57 PM): Drakes equation seems to point toward the existence of aliens.
creature_dm (7:37:19 PM): Also, the average airspeed of an unladen swallow is 11 meters per second
genometype (7:37:56 PM): You chased that knowledge and found it.
creature_dm (7:38:19 PM): Yes, there is evidence involved
genometype (7:38:26 PM): Those that pursue God find him, usually.
creature_dm (7:38:33 PM): You seem to consistently argue that there is evidence
creature_dm (7:38:39 PM): toward the existance of god
genometype (7:38:52 PM): Those that pursue him find him.
creature_dm (7:39:09 PM): However, they do not find evidence of him
creature_dm (7:39:17 PM): Thus is the definition of belief, not evidence
creature_dm (7:39:45 PM): My whole point is to not confuse belief with knowledge
genometype (7:39:49 PM): Drake started with a hypothesis.
creature_dm (7:39:59 PM): Drake's equation proves nothing
genometype (7:40:12 PM): We might confirm it in a few decades.
creature_dm (7:40:41 PM): We can confirm the existance of god if he appeared in front of everyone simultaneously and said he existed. Until he does that, though, there is no evidence
creature_dm (7:40:48 PM): My point is to not confuse belief with knowledge
creature_dm (7:40:57 PM): Knowledge can be debated, proven or disproven
creature_dm (7:41:16 PM): Should drake's equation be able to be calculated, its result is knowledge
creature_dm (7:41:36 PM): Until then, speculating as to what it will prove is merely belief
creature_dm (7:42:06 PM): Belief cannot be debated because there no evidence that can be used as proof
genometype (7:43:00 PM): Now you sound like No Trust, with his "Intellectual masturbation."
creature_dm (7:43:48 PM): Just because No Trust is a prick doesn't mean he isn't occasionaly correct
genometype (7:44:37 PM): In the meantime, I see a lot of patterns that seem to spontaneously propagate.
creature_dm (7:45:33 PM): Where? From whom? What are you talking about now?
genometype (7:46:26 PM): Where did language and the market come from, for starters. Nature seems to be pseudorandom. What for? I need a hypothosis.
genometype (7:47:15 PM): Hayek's observations will lead one to think the market isn't a human invention.
creature_dm (7:47:43 PM): The market isn't a human invention, it was created by human predecesors
genometype (7:48:01 PM): Aliens?
creature_dm (7:48:18 PM): "random" only exists at the quantum level; beyond that there are merely situations in which there are too many variables for an effective calculation
creature_dm (7:48:36 PM): Do you believe aliens were human predecors?
creature_dm (7:48:43 PM): Because there is evidence against that
genometype (7:49:18 PM): I don't believe aliens invented the market, or language.
creature_dm (7:49:27 PM): Good
genometype (7:49:50 PM): Command economies simply don't work, because they aren't supposed to.
creature_dm (7:50:05 PM): The market and language were created by chimpanzee-esque human predecesors, and the market and language still exist on primitive levels among chimpanzees
creature_dm (7:50:38 PM): Humans merely made the market more diverse, than say, sex for food.
creature_dm (7:51:03 PM): and humans merely greatly expanded the vocabulary beyond "Holy shit someone's going to come kill us"
genometype (7:51:57 PM): Sure, we've built up from humble origins, but it seems predetermined to me.
creature_dm (7:52:17 PM): Many things appear to be predetermined in hindsight
genometype (7:52:30 PM): Like anthills.
creature_dm (7:53:10 PM): Of course, one can argue for a level of predetermination in all things
creature_dm (7:53:55 PM): If the world operates where finite and comprehensible rules govern human behavior and all natural phenomenon, then all things that will ever happen hypothetically can be calculated from any point in time
genometype (7:54:17 PM): That sounds familiar.
creature_dm (7:54:25 PM): (save those things which are truly random but have very little effect on events beyond the quantum level)
creature_dm (7:55:20 PM): The problem of course is 1) in establishing rules to govern every conceivable phenomenon, 2) in collecting enough data to begin analyzing, and 3) in building a powerful enough machine that can analyze that many variables
genometype (7:55:31 PM): Did you write the wikipedia entry on economic determinism?
creature_dm (7:55:44 PM): I have never written a wikipedia entry, so no
genometype (7:57:12 PM): Ok. So, do you believe we're going somewhere we can't control?
creature_dm (7:57:29 PM): That depends entirely on what you mean by control
creature_dm (7:57:49 PM): Do you believe we are in "control" now?
genometype (7:58:36 PM): No. Market forces, just one among many forces, shape the world, rather than a central command.
genometype (7:59:08 PM): Neo's babbling about "choice" means little in shaping it, at least for most of us.
creature_dm (7:59:44 PM): On the other hand, the market, as well as many other forces, are almost entirely defined by humans. If they could collectively decide to do something else, they could. In that sense they have "control", they merely do not apply it
creature_dm (8:00:43 PM): However, if all humans should choose to do something, then that too could be, hypothetically, predicted accurately should we have the means to do so. In that sense, "control" is merely a word humans use to imply their idea of "choice", which of course is also an illusion
genometype (8:02:00 PM): Planned economies fail.
genometype (8:02:19 PM): 1990, the big nodal shift in mankind.
creature_dm (8:02:29 PM): The majority of most large-scale planned economies have not lasted greater than a century.
creature_dm (8:02:51 PM): Planned economies on smaller scales generally have more resiliency as the number of variables decrease.
genometype (8:03:19 PM): Yes, microeconomics works differently.
creature_dm (8:03:29 PM): Only because there are less variables
genometype (8:03:48 PM): That seems to be true.
genometype (8:05:26 PM): Well, I only have a limited amount of sunlight left in the day here.
genometype (8:06:32 PM): Anything I need to answer for before logging off?
genometype (8:06:44 PM): Besides everything?
creature_dm (8:06:48 PM): brb
genometype (8:07:30 PM): Take your time. I need to step out until the sun goes down.
genometype (8:58:37 PM): I'm back when you're back.
creature_dm (9:39:00 PM): Just been watching some family guy and eating dinner
genometype (9:39:21 PM): Hello.
creature_dm (9:39:52 PM): Howdy
genometype (9:39:56 PM): Did you watch it on video or DVD?
creature_dm (9:40:00 PM): What's with the Navy stuff anyway? Are you in the Navy?
creature_dm (9:40:01 PM): DV
genometype (9:40:22 PM): I just chose this IM environment.
creature_dm (9:40:44 PM): I know, but why do you like it?
genometype (9:41:00 PM): It is pleasing.
creature_dm (9:41:17 PM): Which one do you stay on? 1234 or 5?
creature_dm (9:41:23 PM): I like 2
genometype (9:41:43 PM): I usually stick with one.
genometype (9:41:58 PM): #1
creature_dm (9:43:25 PM): You know, i've almost hit the same review count as you have for "The End of Segregation" with a whooping 74 words
genometype (9:43:50 PM): The choices people make...
creature_dm (9:44:21 PM): Did you know I think i'm the only person on fictionpress to actually have more reviews on a piece than actual words?
genometype (9:45:19 PM): That is frightening, but haikus usually get close.
creature_dm (9:45:42 PM): Yes, haikus can get close
creature_dm (9:46:37 PM): War Suck!
genometype (9:46:38 PM): I've seen some journals routinely collect more reviews than words in the original posts.
creature_dm (9:47:03 PM): Oh? What sorts of journals?
genometype (9:48:23 PM): They usually devolve into forums. Things like Live/dead journal often do that. Sometimes, a daily post will say nothing more than "discuss amoung yourselves."
creature_dm (9:48:44 PM): Ah
creature_dm (9:48:58 PM): I've spent a total of 30 seconds on lifejournal
genometype (9:49:20 PM): All the good ones are closed to friends only.
creature_dm (9:49:30 PM): Good thing I don't have friends
genometype (9:50:46 PM): Occasionally, someone might post something of interest, but its best look look elsewhere.
genometype (9:51:30 PM): Have you ever browsed Project Guttenberg?
genometype (9:53:03 PM):
creature_dm (9:54:11 PM): hold
creature_dm (9:55:45 PM): No, i've always stolen my free books from elsewhere
creature_dm (9:55:46 PM): I mean...
genometype (9:56:30 PM): Libraries don't have all the classic titles, at least not any that I've seen.
creature_dm (9:58:05 PM): Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
creature_dm (9:58:51 PM): Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.
genometype (9:59:21 PM): ?
creature_dm (9:59:24 PM): It is in vain, sir, to extenuate the matter. Gentlemen may cry, Peace, Peace—but there is no peace. The war is actually begun! The next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms! Our brethren are already in the field! Why stand we here idle? What is it that gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know not what course others may take; but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
genometype (10:00:12 PM): Thanks for the quotes...
genometype (10:00:27 PM): Wikiquote?
creature_dm (10:00:38 PM): No it's from that site you just mentioned
genometype (10:01:03 PM): Which author did you look up?
creature_dm (10:01:12 PM): Patrick Henry
genometype (10:01:24 PM): Yes, liberty or death.
genometype (10:02:04 PM): I enjoy the selection there.
genometype (10:03:02 PM): Note that if Patrick Henry were alive today, you'd condemn him for the rhetorical questions.
creature_dm (10:03:02 PM): I always preferred the modern american version, "Give me liberty or i'll cap your mothafuckin ass"
creature_dm (10:03:12 PM): That's incorrect
creature_dm (10:03:21 PM): I condemn him anyway for his use of rhetorical questions
genometype (10:03:32 PM):
genometype (10:04:30 PM): Makes sense.
genometype (10:05:02 PM): His speeches wouldn't motivate me to fight anything.
creature_dm (10:05:30 PM): That's because you're not poor and stupid
genometype (10:05:53 PM): Thank you.
creature_dm (10:06:04 PM): Yeah, you're not poor
creature_dm (10:06:08 PM): cha-burn
genometype (10:06:24 PM):
creature_dm (10:09:49 PM): Are you holding up your pointer or your middle there?
genometype (10:10:06 PM): It is the shape of an L.
creature_dm (10:10:27 PM): Ah
creature_dm (10:10:38 PM): Sort of like the pilot in the picture to the left?
genometype (10:10:48 PM): Yeah!
genometype (10:11:41 PM): I've been calling you a loser from the beginnging.
genometype (10:11:54 PM):
creature_dm (10:12:40 PM): But it's backward
creature_dm (10:12:53 PM): I thought you were trying to tell me something about yourself
genometype (10:13:11 PM): I'm not a naval aviator.
creature_dm (10:13:32 PM): Really? What are you then? A potato?
genometype (10:13:57 PM): How dare you insult the Irish!
creature_dm (10:14:20 PM): What, are they having another famine?
genometype (10:15:01 PM): May a thousand plagues descend on your house.
creature_dm (10:15:29 PM): Your mother smells of elderberries
genometype (10:15:30 PM): I do, however, grow potatos.
creature_dm (10:18:21 PM): STATELY, PLUMP BUCK MULLIGAN CAME FROM THE STAIRHEAD, bearing a bowl of lather on which a mirror and a razor lay crossed. A yellow dressinggown, ungirdled, was sustained gently behind him by the mild morning air. He held the bowl aloft and intoned: --INTROIBO AD ALTARE DEI.
genometype (10:19:00 PM): Organicly
genometype (10:19:11 PM): Bad spelling.
creature_dm (10:19:52 PM): Yeah, whoever wrote that must have been a n00b
genometype (10:20:10 PM): Is that a gothic writing style...
creature_dm (10:20:53 PM): It's Joyce
genometype (10:21:10 PM): I was about to guess Hawthorne.
genometype (10:25:13 PM): I learn something new everyday: Jonny Cash covered a Soundgarden song.
creature_dm (10:25:25 PM): He also covered a NIN song
creature_dm (10:25:28 PM): The history of all hitherto existing societies is the history of class struggles. Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary re-constitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes.
genometype (10:26:25 PM): Alex de Tocqueville?
creature_dm (10:26:32 PM): Marx
genometype (10:26:43 PM): I'm bad at this!
genometype (10:27:32 PM): Ah, now that I've read it again, it should have been obvious.
creature_dm (10:27:58 PM): Retrospect is 20/20
genometype (10:28:22 PM): Bite me.
creature_dm (10:28:33 PM): OkY
creature_dm (10:28:36 PM): *bites*
creature_dm (10:28:40 PM): Hmm, tastes like chicken
genometype (10:28:49 PM):
genometype (10:29:36 PM): And FYI, I knew "Hurt" was a Nine Inch Nails song.
creature_dm (10:29:56 PM): Okay
creature_dm (10:30:05 PM): Why did you switch your avatar to a female?
genometype (10:30:55 PM): I did that a long time ago. It isn't hard to switch. I did it for reasons of family politics.
creature_dm (10:31:52 PM): ....?
genometype (10:32:49 PM): In short, I talked to a girl, and her family noticed, didn't approve of her talking to a boy. So I switched sexes.
genometype (10:33:13 PM): Strange, considering she was supposedly over 18.
creature_dm (10:33:56 PM): Ah, I see
creature_dm (10:34:03 PM): Maybe she was married
genometype (10:34:21 PM): If so, she didn't say anything about it.
creature_dm (10:34:42 PM): What, people just slip that in these days? "Hi, my name is Joanna and I'm married. Nice to meet you."
genometype (10:35:04 PM): Hey, I never told you my marital status.
creature_dm (10:35:41 PM): You claim to be single and not looking
creature_dm (10:35:49 PM): What the truth is, I don't know/care
genometype (10:36:23 PM): So you CAN check profiles!
creature_dm (10:36:34 PM): Other people's, not my own
genometype (10:36:51 PM):
creature_dm (10:37:22 PM): What's with the nose thing?
genometype (10:38:00 PM): It means "Liar." I'm saying you can check your own profile.
creature_dm (10:38:11 PM): Oh I can
creature_dm (10:38:34 PM): But I have to click on your profile first, and then type in my name on the part with the name
genometype (10:39:10 PM): That doesn't sound so hard.
creature_dm (10:39:38 PM): It isn't, if you aren't looking for a real link
genometype (10:40:14 PM): Real link?
creature_dm (10:40:57 PM): Like clicking on your avatar
creature_dm (10:41:02 PM): ie the lazy way
genometype (10:41:34 PM): You are 33 again.
creature_dm (10:41:51 PM): Actually i'm 2,300,485.93 years old
genometype (10:43:22 PM): Except on thursdays. Are you going to continue keeping raptor7345 in that rut?
creature_dm (10:43:41 PM): What rut?
genometype (10:44:05 PM): Writing two word chapters.
genometype (10:44:25 PM): Now that you know they won't delete him.
creature_dm (10:44:57 PM): So you're thinking I need more words?
genometype (10:45:32 PM): Gah! Your parody needs to grow.
genometype (10:46:00 PM): The shock value of chapter two was fine, however.
genometype (10:46:08 PM):
creature_dm (10:46:19 PM): Not really. I knew that anyone reading me more than likely had read it somewhere else
creature_dm (10:46:30 PM): It was actually redundant
genometype (10:46:57 PM): It shocked me into a giggle.
creature_dm (10:47:41 PM): Heh
genometype (10:49:10 PM): AVDA wasn't going to stop writing until SBR or SBS or whatever admitted to laughing to it.
genometype (10:49:27 PM): SBR Silent Blue Rose.
genometype (10:49:32 PM): That was it.
genometype (10:50:12 PM): AVDA wouldn't be happy with a displeased audience.
genometype (10:53:37 PM): Le Creature died while instant messenging with a radical superhacker. May he rest in peace.
creature_dm (10:54:53 PM): Le Creature went underground. He's currently living with the moles.
genometype (10:55:48 PM): I see. What is the self I'm talking to? Got a screen name?
creature_dm (10:56:06 PM): Yes, Creature
genometype (10:56:27 PM): Creature is no longer French, I guess.
genometype (10:56:35 PM): Tres bon.
creature_dm (10:57:55 PM): You never even met the real creature, he was gone before you got here
genometype (10:59:23 PM): Mmm. I'm not sure I'd want to see that carnival. Some say that site was better back then, but I'm doubting that.
creature_dm (10:59:54 PM): in a sentence: it inspired the creation of MrFlames
creature_dm (11:00:17 PM): It was different in some ways and completely the same in others
genometype (11:00:46 PM): I missed a colourful character!
creature_dm (11:01:02 PM): You can always buy my book
genometype (11:01:22 PM): I bet it made the retarded anarchist's day.
genometype (11:02:12 PM): I enjoyed lobotomizing him.
creature_dm (11:02:13 PM): Someone once flamed me on one story, commended me on another, and made no comment on another
genometype (11:02:46 PM): How does one review without leaving a comment?
creature_dm (11:03:23 PM): He said, "...no comment."
genometype (11:03:40 PM): Oh, I hate those reviews!
genometype (11:03:49 PM): Loathe.
genometype (11:04:01 PM): Wait! *Loathe*
creature_dm (11:04:02 PM): Did you ever read Chapter 2 of The Imperialist?
genometype (11:04:29 PM): Imperialist? Sorry, no.
creature_dm (11:04:55 PM): http://www.fictionpress.com/read.php?storyid=1293968
genometype (11:05:28 PM): It is going to time out.
creature_dm (11:05:42 PM): copy/paste it then
genometype (11:06:06 PM): That won't solve it.
genometype (11:06:19 PM): Didn't.
creature_dm (11:06:46 PM): Well, I trust you can figure out what must be done
genometype (11:07:07 PM): I just can't connect with it.
creature_dm (11:07:42 PM): Just do a search for Admiral on Fictionpress
creature_dm (11:07:49 PM): or something
genometype (11:09:00 PM): You don't understand. Fictionpress routinely times out on me. I can't visit the site. I have, however, read works by Admiral.
genometype (11:09:35 PM): Was that in any way related to the, uh, Armchair General thing?
creature_dm (11:10:26 PM): vaguely
creature_dm (11:10:37 PM): This was his most provoking and less-than-usually-retarded piece
creature_dm (11:10:44 PM): It was also one of his first
genometype (11:11:10 PM): Most people become reactionary after the first one.
genometype (11:13:49 PM): So, you have no trouble visiting the site? I envy and loathe your ability to connect to high-traffic sites.
genometype (11:17:58 PM): I'd say almost everything is "provoking" on the site. I don't necessarily equate that with talent.
genometype (11:20:27 PM): Did your question about Admiral's work have anything to do with my "Yes Virginia!" Christmas card gag?
genometype (11:32:23 PM): I'll assume you had a power outage, rather than believe you simply vanished.

billy_bo_bob_yep (9:43:26 PM): GRENADE!
genometype (9:43:34 PM): "The moment the idea is admitted into society that property is not as sacred as the laws of God, and that there is not a force of law and public justice to protect it, anarchy and tyranny commence."
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:44:16 PM): Anarchy and tyranny simultaneously commence?
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:44:18 PM): That's incredible
genometype (9:44:52 PM): John Adams got away with saying it.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:44:53 PM): It's like water on fire or "reality TV"
genometype (9:45:24 PM): 'Sup?
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:45:29 PM): Hmm
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:45:36 PM): I'm pretty sure the story i'm writing makes little to no sense
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:45:47 PM): This has begun to concern me, ever so slightly
genometype (9:46:09 PM): The same one? It was silly from the start.>:P
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:46:44 PM): The part I referred to was well over a hundred pages in
genometype (9:47:14 PM): :-< I could have guessed that.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:47:21 PM): At least some of the narrative/dialogue is a bit amusing, even if as a whole it doesn't really make sense
genometype (9:47:39 PM): PWP?
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:48:15 PM): PWP?
genometype (9:48:52 PM): It stands for "Plot, what plot?" A fan fiction term, usually. It mostly applies to smut, however.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:49:00 PM): Ah
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:49:27 PM): It also is an underground hacker group, a stock, a site that sells tennis racket, and an underground wrestling organization
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:49:56 PM): Actually there is a plot, the plot just is sort of an anti-plot
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:50:12 PM): Given my inspiration for the section, this of course only makes sense
genometype (9:50:26 PM): Okay.
genometype (9:50:37 PM): :-?
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:50:49 PM): It's kinda like an episode of seinfeld. You know, nothing really happens. But a lot of stuff is happening
genometype (9:51:36 PM): Oh yes. Kramer has a adventure, while George complains about... whatever.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:51:44 PM): The first thing he noticed was that he didn't have a tail. The next thing he checked, however, was still there, and for this he was glad. The next thing he noticed was that he was a human male. This would come as a surprise to most half-dragons, I believe, but I think Char managed to take it in stride. If nothing else, he could appreciate the fact he was wearing a pretty smooth suit, even if he was a human.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:52:09 PM): Out of context that might not make sense
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:52:17 PM): Char is a half-dragon
genometype (9:52:52 PM): The only other Char I've ever heard of was from Mobile Suit Gundam (1979).
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:53:24 PM): He soon finds out that in this world, his name is apparently Charlie
genometype (9:53:58 PM): I see. The next thing he checked out, was that what I think it was?
genometype (9:54:10 PM): :-O
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:54:26 PM): "You see, in this world, we're supposed to fulfill certain stereotypes. You're the charming and masculine male protagonist, and I'm the alluring yet deceptive femme fatale. Do you understand yet?"
"Absolutely," Charlie said. "Are we to have sex now?"
"Not a chance in Hell," Emilia stated frankly, "Unless this is Hell, which could be the case-in which case, not a chance, period."
"Oh I see," Charlie said. "You must be a lesbian."

genometype (9:55:43 PM): This was definately written by the personae I've come to know.<:-P
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:55:48 PM): "But if they're so stupid, why do I have to stop them? Why haven't they been stopped already?"
"Because," Emilia said, exasperation apparently beginning to set in, "They are extremely intelligent stupid people. You've never dealt with someone like that before?"

genometype (9:56:19 PM): :)
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:56:44 PM): "When, exactly, did everything stop making sense?"
"It all started when this guy showed up. Well, not really a guy."
"Was he a girl?" Charlie asked.
"Not when he showed up," Emilia said.
"Was he a eunuch?" Charlie asked.
"Not when he showed up," Emilia said. "At least I don't think so."
"Ah," Charlie said, "That would explain why the world stopped making sense when he showed up.
genometype (9:57:16 PM): K
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:57:34 PM): Do you find any of those "funny"?
genometype (9:57:48 PM): Nope.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:58:18 PM): What exactly do you think of them?
genometype (9:59:09 PM): They're like the contrived comic relief of a major motion picture.
billy_bo_bob_yep (9:59:51 PM): Well, I'm making progress. At least people can tell that it's at least supposed to be funny.
genometype (10:00:34 PM): Aiming for comedy is difficult.
genometype (10:01:44 PM): The three law enforcement types processed the same scene differently. Jones, obviously, was eavesdropping on one civilian electro-magnetic emissions within United States territory. Sure, he was just rehearsing for his airtime over Indian Country, but still, the law's the law.

The navy crime scene investigators turned their attention away from the workstation operators, and toward the writer. They wished to talk over the case, but weren't sure what to say before civilian ears. They glared, then mentally threw up their hands, and delved into some manila folders.

The Lieutenant set a Playstation One, super-modified in anticipation of the PSP, in his crossed lap.

“Does anyone want to play Tekken?”
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:03:03 PM): Interesting
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:03:12 PM): I'm not exactly sure what to make of it
genometype (10:03:25 PM): Noise pelted ears irritably in homes all over Southern California during the hours before sunrise, when UpLink's legion of secretaries dialed the numbers of the company's network security personnel.
These men, and a few women, slowly rose from the beds or couches of their apartments or bungalows, and groped for the necks of conventional phones, or maybe the arches of headphones, and hailed the other end in original groggy ways.
Not all were asleep. Some, in fact, were playing the new release of PS2 Dragon Ball Z game when their games were interrupted.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:06:02 PM): Is there more coming?
genometype (10:06:23 PM): Affirmative.
genometype (10:07:40 PM): “Here is a really special man on campus, the Tiny Terror, a fellow Hispanic, a former Special Forces Soldier. Tell everybody your name and rank, Soldier!”

The reporter exchanged the microphone from his black thermal gloves to the soldier's hands.

“I'm Communications Sergeant Robin Molina. My last assignment was actually classified, but my last non-secret unit was within the 5th Special Forces Group. Is that good?”

“Very good. De Oppresso Liber. That was some impressive booty you brought in. Care to talk about it?”

Robin was a ham for the camera.

genometype (10:08:19 PM): “OK, sure. They don't call us snake-eaters for nothing. I went out woven in with a fire group of a friendly Arab militia, hunting mice and snakes from the open desert. The locals out here live within an ecological wasteland created by Saddam, so living can be pretty tough. Really, we can and do import a lot of stuff, but these people need a staple. Besides, if we give them everything except skills to do this alone, they only become dependent on us. We've taught them so much- much more than just how to shoot a gun. We're really covering everything the cowering civilian weenies are supposed to, so we're doing something of a double duty.

genometype (10:08:32 PM): “They're really getting an education with us, and they in turn are giving us some needed experience at this. We're also getting to know and trust one another, which is more than the diplomats are doing. Really, they can identify with soldiers a lot better than weenies who wilt without air conditioning.

“Can I ask you a question?”

“I don't know, can you? Just kidding, go ahead.”

“How is it that all the news that happens in a day can fit on a twenty-five minute news show?”
genometype (10:08:52 PM): fin
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:10:37 PM): Indeed
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:10:48 PM): Good question, they should ask Johnny about that.
genometype (10:11:01 PM): #:-S
genometype (10:11:23 PM): They carried the heaviest and most complex bomb known to man, a bomb of horrifying power. Does anyone outside of the scientific community know just what ten terawatts is? That’s ten to the thirteenth power watts, sickening amount of electricity, enough to heat a packet of deuterium (heavy water) to a really big number in scientific notation, a temperature seen in nature only around quasars (which are probably masses of space dust and gas being pulled into a black hole). All you need to burn water to these temperatures is a collage tabletop laser to concentrate all its output into the briefest moment, say a femtosecond (a time so short, nerve impulses are turtles in comparison), and got a whole lot of steam power lunging against the bomb casing. They worked on this, too.
genometype (10:11:58 PM): Different story.
genometype (10:12:04 PM): :-B
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:12:13 PM): Indeed
genometype (10:12:48 PM): I won't harass you with more.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:13:26 PM): Wait, was the last one a mistaken post or did I just really miss something?
genometype (10:13:39 PM): Which one?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:14:26 PM): the one with ten terawatts
genometype (10:14:35 PM): What of it?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:14:41 PM): Was it supposed to be funny?
genometype (10:15:06 PM): No!=))
genometype (10:15:35 PM): I hope to build that bomb one day.B-)
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:15:43 PM): ...why?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:15:59 PM): So you can heat up 100 gallons of hot chocolate instantly?
genometype (10:17:22 PM): Dude, bombs are awesome! All the chocolate would evaporate. Naw, it would be more useful for moving objects through space.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:18:06 PM): Bombs are interesting as a form to relieve sensory deprivation and as a tool. Do you not have enough contact in real life?
genometype (10:18:40 PM): Contact? Contact with what?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:18:46 PM): Other human beings
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:19:07 PM): non-standard environments... a sufficient supply of mental input
genometype (10:19:29 PM): :-$ Don't tell anyone, but I'm talking to a human right now!=))
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:19:39 PM): No you're not
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:20:00 PM): I'm not a human, I'm a god, remember?
genometype (10:20:07 PM): Right, you’re a nonentity.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:20:14 PM): Precisely.
genometype (10:20:30 PM): You've never looked for yourself, therefore, you don't exist.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:21:09 PM): What do you mean by "yourself" and "exist"
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:21:38 PM): The idea of self and other are merely abstract concepts that oversimplify a complex state
genometype (10:22:30 PM): Untrue. A self may be nothing more than some inquiring. It thinks, therefore it is.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:23:01 PM): Does making no sense give you a boner or something? Descartes was a tool, "I think therefore I am" isn't a proof, it's just a catch-phrase.
genometype (10:23:31 PM): Dropping names gives AVDA an erection.
genometype (10:23:45 PM): Not nonsense.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:24:04 PM): What is this thing you speak of, "thinking"?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:24:17 PM): Where, precisely, do you think? Can you point to the specific location where *you* are?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:24:33 PM): Is there a specific portion of your brain that, if we removed it, would be "you"?
genometype (10:25:02 PM): Socratic junky.
genometype (10:25:11 PM): L-)
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:25:30 PM): Yes, I am employing rhetoric
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:25:48 PM): Since this text box is insufficient to contain a lengthy argument on the essay, I have to use simpler methods
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:25:57 PM): *subject, not essay
genometype (10:26:11 PM): I just kicked my desk, proving my leg exists.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:26:18 PM): To who?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:26:28 PM): I didn't just feel your leg get kicked
genometype (10:26:39 PM): Feel that?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:26:40 PM): Please don't do that, I'm playing music
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:26:55 PM): That came from my computer, not from "you" specifically
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:27:11 PM): There are computer programs I have dealt with that are capable of almost equivalent reactions
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:27:26 PM): Do you have a mic?
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:27:49 PM): Tell me if you start talking
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:27:59 PM): I have to adjust volume, just a sec
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:28:09 PM): alright
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:28:14 PM): I don't have a mic
genometype (10:28:36 PM): I exist!
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:28:39 PM): You're still kinda quiet on my computer, my speakers can't go very high
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:29:03 PM): Are you claiming that merely because you can create sound that you exist?
genometype (10:29:35 PM): You seemed to think trees existed because they made a sound when they fell.
genometype (10:29:45 PM): =D>
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:30:08 PM): There is evidence that trees make a sound even if no one is watching
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:30:16 PM): However, this does not prove they exist
genometype (10:30:41 PM): Take that back!
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:30:57 PM): The human mind shapes and defines reality, because of this everything is subjective to the individual's perceptions.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:31:07 PM): What exactly do you mean "you exist"? That means nothing.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:31:41 PM): That there is some matter which you would refer to as yourself? This could be just as easily supplied should I be schizophrenic.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:31:44 PM): Or dreaming, even.
genometype (10:32:19 PM): I own property. The property-owner is defined by law.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:32:21 PM): I once dreamed that I was walking in a world of pure white, with no other entity in "existance" other than myself? Because I perceived this, does this mean that world "existed'?
genometype (10:32:43 PM): I've been there.
billy_bo_bob_yep (10:33:07 PM): Salad, brb
genometype (10:33:41 PM): Champloo is on!=P~:x

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